Humint Events Online: The Honey Pot

Sunday, October 17, 2004

The Honey Pot

Going back over some of my older posts, I see comments have been left that I didn't observe before. There are some very informative comments and I sincerely thank people who took the time to leave something.

On my post "Where Did Flight 77 Really Go?" (Saturday September 18th), an extremely long comment was left. I am going to post a particularly interesting section.


Anonymous said...

"A honey pot, in intelligence jargon, is a tempting source of information or 'dangle' that is set out to lure intended victims into a trap. Ultimately the honey pot is violently and maliciously discredited so as to destroy the credibility of anything stuck to it by association." (Michael Ruppert, "Crossing the Rubicon," p. 184)


It is probably not a coincidence that the defenders of the offical "surprise attack" claim focus mostly on the "no plane at the Pentagon" story in their quest to discredit 9/11 skeptics.

In early September 2004, Parade magazine ran a short article that dismissed 9/11 skepticism based on the Pentagon "no plane" claims. Parade reaches tens of millions of people. This is strong evidence that the whole "no plane" story is a set up to discredit.


http://www.parade.com/aol/current/columns/intelligence.html
Looking for more Intelligence Report from PARADE magazine? Browse our FREE archive.
In this week's "Intelligence Report," Lyric Wallwork Winik writes that 9/11 conspiracy theories are growing and that people from all walks of life believe them. How do these theories get started?
Investigator Gerald Posner, author of Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK, says that time is a significant factor in the development of conspiracy theories. "As you get farther away from the real history, the stories get looser with the facts and more outlandish," he says. This was certainly the case with the Kennedy assassination, and Posner says he wonders if we're only in the early stages of 9/11 conspiracy theories.
The Internet, too, is a potent tool for spreading conspiracy theories. PARADE found this out after Lyric Wallwork Winik interviewed Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in Oct. 2001. In a transcript of Winik's interview with Rumsfeld, which was published on the Department of Defense's Web site, Rumsfeld seemed to indicate that the Pentagon was hit by a missile on 9/11 instead of a plane. It turns out that a transcription error led to the confusion, but conspiracy theorists latched onto Rumsfeld's supposed admission and spread it over the Internet.


Other sites that debunk the "no plane" claims make the issue of complicity dependent on whether the "no plane" claim is true or false. This is a false dichotomy -- that evidence for a large jet at the Pentagon therefore exonerates the government of complicity (it totally avoids the issues of the NORAD, et al wargames, the failure to respond / defend DC, the way the plane targeted the nearly empty part of the building).


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html
Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building.

[this page has good photos of plane debris in the wreckage of the Pentagon, which should, but won't, put the "no plane" theories to bed]



The KEY issue with the Pentagon crash -- to prove US complicity -- is not WHAT hit the Pentagon, but WHERE the Pentagon was hit (in the nearly empty, recently reconstructed and strengthened sector).

The fact that the Pentagon was hit in the one method that minimized casualties is not disputed by anyone - it is proven 100%. This is one of the strongest pieces of evidence for official complicity in 9/11, since a flight school drop out would not have chosen (nor been able) to fly a plane into the mostly empty sector of the Pentagon. If the plane had hit any other part, thousands would probably have been killed instead of a little over 100 on the ground.

The "five photos" released by the military have the wrong date stamp on them (a clue that they're tampered with, a subtle statement from the military) and don't show anything conclusive. It is probable they were a deliberate effort to throw people into an endless debate, getting various factions arguing for one theory versus another

The real issue is WHERE it hit.


My sentiments EXACTLY!

I strongly believe the Pentagon surveillance video has been altered and is disinfo; the government is almost certainly intentionally fanning the flames of this "controversy" in order to take people's minds off the REAL sign of an inside job: WHERE the Pentagon was hit.

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