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Thursday, October 12, 2006

Sure Was a Lot of Wreckage Recovered for Such a Small Plane...

Investigators and workers in hard hats gathered up the scorched pieces of New York Yankee Cory Lidle's shattered plane at a luxury high-rise Thursday in a floor-by-floor sweep for clues to why the aircraft crashed.

The pitcher and his flight instructor were killed when their plane slammed into the 40-story condominium tower Wednesday.

Crews recovered the nose, wings, tail and instrument panel of the plane along with a hand-held GPS device as they conducted an exhaustive search of the building — inspecting even terraces and ledges, said National Transportation Safety Board member Debbie Hersman.

Men in hard hats lifted pieces of wreckage from the street and placed them neatly on a silver-colored tarp in the bed of a pickup truck. Neighborhood children gathered to gawk at the jagged and twisted metal, glass shards, and charred wing and door.

Hersman said the single-engine plane was cruising at 112 mph at 700 feet of altitude as it tried to make a U-turn to go south down the East River. It was last seen on radar about a quarter-mile north of the building, in the middle of the turn, at 500 feet.

"Early examination indicates that the propellers were turning" at the time of impact, Hersman said, suggesting the engine was still running.

Residents began returning to their battered and scarred apartments, one day after the crash engulfed apartments in flames and sent fiery wreckage raining down on the street and sidewalk. One witness said he saw the charred body of one of the victims in the street.

"It was in a fetal position, strapped into a seat. I could see a white leg sticking up. It was awful," said maintenance worker Juan Rosario, adding that other plane wreckage, including a door and wheels, was strewn near the body.

The medical examiner's office removed the bodies Wednesday, but pieces of fuselage, a plane door and crushed vehicles still littered the street. Officials said aircraft parts and headsets were on the ground, and investigators discovered the pilot's log book in the wreckage.

More details also emerged Thursday about the flight instructor who was with Lidle aboard the four-seat Cirrus SR20 during the sightseeing flight around Manhattan. Tyler Stanger, 26, operated a flight school in La Verne, Calif.

He and Lidle apparently planned on flying from New York to California this week, after the Yankees' defeat in the playoffs over the weekend.

"They were going to fly back together. It was right after the loss to Detroit," said Dave Conriguez, who works at the airport coffee shop in California that Stanger frequented. "Tyler's such a great flight instructor that I never gave it a second thought. It was just, `See you in a week.'"

The crash prompted renewed calls for the government to restrict the airspace around Manhattan to help ensure planes cannot get so close to the city's skyscrapers. Much of the airspace over two of the main rivers that encircle Manhattan is open to small aircraft flying under 1,100 feet.

A day after the crash, the building had a gaping hole where bricks and glass used to be, and a black scorch mark, six stories long.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got it, Spook! This whole thing has been bothering me and since your prime scientific method is "making shit up", you can take this and run with it:

Find out who owned the apartment that Lidle's plane smacked into. Then, create/make-up/invent some tie in to Neil Bush or Jenna Bush or Pedro the Groundskeeper at Bush's ranch or Halliburton or Raytheon or whetever the crap you like, and say that the owner of the apartment created a HUGE electromagnetic magnet to snare the nearest passing plane into crashing! All for the express purpose of scaring the public into voting Republican again! And Re-electing Bush! Wait...he's not running. Doesn't matter! Make up more shit that he intends to run again because all you lunatics say he wasn't elected properly in the first place!

Am I brilliant or what!

7:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"making shit up"
Am I brilliant or what!

wow aren't you though?
i like how the u.s. govt/media claimed that a 757 was crashed in shanksville yet there was absolutely no evidence of this:
HUNT THE BOEING!!-shanksville
so who is really just making shit up?

11:37 AM  
Blogger spooked said...

"sword into pinch"

LOL

"Pinch"-- My point was that they recovered more debris from this plane crash than we have ever seen from any one 9/11 crash-- even though the Lidle plane was 10 times smaller than a 767 or 757.

11:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spooked, the plane vaporized and then disappeared into a hole in the sidewalk.

I'm beginning to think the OGCT is true because of the way that no one was allowed to walk down the sidewalk and the fact that they banned photography in front of that apartment building in that whole area of Manhattan--why, it's just like 9/11 in every way!

It's just a miracle that the building and the other buiildings owned by that developer didn't turn into dust within an hour or two. This must have been a much stronger building. Can't wait for the FEMA and NIST reports and the Popular Mechanics piece.

I'm also hoping that within a few years they'll release 5 blurry frames from a security camera showing the impact.

God Bless George Bush and his drooling "ignorant masses" like Sword of Truth and Pinched! Long Live Conspiracy Smasher and the fools who will believe ANYTHING THEY SEE ON TV!

Fred

Fred

10:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK,

I'll try this even though I know it is futile.

F = ma - Force equals mass times acceleration

This is understood by pretty much anyone with a basic introduction to physics.

1. Which do you think has a larger mass, a Cirrus, 4-place, single-engine airplane or a Boeing jet airliner?

2. In the recent accident and at the World Trade Towers all aircraft came to a complete stop within just a few feet of impact. Which do you think is the larger accelleration? Going from ~100 knots to zero or going from 2-300 knots to zero. (Note to those who model buildings with rabbit fencing: For computing the amount of force exerted acceleration and deceleration can be treated identically.)

3. Now, which incident would be expected (by people who are capable of rational thought) to produce larger pieces of debries, the incident which involved a much larger application of force or the one with a much larger. Keep in mind that the amount of force involved directly relates to the energy available to pulverize the respective aircraft.

I know that this may be beyond a lot of people who frequent this site but the relative size of aircraft pieces in the two incidents argues against any 9/11 conspiricy theories. I'll bet that if you flew a toy glider plane (the kind I used to play with as a kid) into a building you'd wind up with no broken pieces at all, just a dinged up balsa wood toy. Would this be a big surprise? Maybe spooked could try that experiment to prove that a 767 would just bounce off the WTC towers.

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correction to my earlier post:

"3. Now, which incident would be expected (by people who are capable of rational thought) to produce larger pieces of debries, the incident which involved a much larger application of force or the one with a much larger."

should have been

3. Now, which incident would be expected (by people who are capable of rational thought) to produce larger pieces of debris, the incident which involved a much larger application of force or the one with much smaller.

8:03 PM  

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